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A Conversation with Swan Dive (continued)

PM: Let's talk about the new Japanese deal. How did that come about?

BD: When we had finished the record, I contacted a few of our friends in Japan to ask for advice about who we might approach as far as a new licensing deal. And our friend June over there gave me three addresses. And one of those addresses was for JVC. And I e-mailed them and asked, "Would it be okay if we sent a copy of the record?" They said, "Sure. We know who you are. We'd love to hear it." And it was easy. I mean, we just sent it and six weeks later they said, "We'd like to put this record out."

PM: So they licensed it, right?

BD: Uh-huh. Honestly, I was really thinking that it was going to be a lot more difficult, and that maybe we'd had our time, and that we wouldn't get another license. Because sometimes when you lose a deal you're kind of marked. Another label doesn't want to take a chance on you. But I'm just basing that on what I know from my friends who've had deals in America. Maybe it's not the same in Japan.

So, yeah, we got a new deal. And they've been very nice. The only thing that's a little strange for Molly and me is--with the last label, with Sony, we got a chance to actually meet the people, and because of that, got to know them a lot better. So far, this has only been an e-mail relationship.

PM: That's wild.

BD: Yeah. So it's a little hard to--

PM: And did they hint at any plans to meet you in the imminent future, or not necessarily, or...?

BD: Nothing has really been discussed. The few magazine interviews that we've done have just been phone-ups. And JVC hasn't said anything about a tour, or a promotional tour. I think things have changed in Japan because there's been a steady economic downturn over the last few years, and they're a lot less willing than before to spend money on a western band for a licensing deal. It used to be automatic that they'd just bring us over for a promo tour.

PM: Right.

BD: But even talking to someone who's a lot more successful--like Ben Folds, who's done really well in Japan, I was talking to him and he said, "Yeah, things have really changed as far as what the Japanese label will do to promote my record." And he's at a whole different level, a higher level than we are.

PM: And will tour solo.

BD: Yeah, right. So they won't give him support to bring a band. He said he was playing smaller venues and things like that. So I think it's just across the board. I hope we get to go back to Japan, especially I'd love to go back with a full band, because we've never gotten to play there with a full band.

PM: How many would you count as a full band in an instance like that?

BD: Well, with this record, I don't know. I mean, it may be that we want to bring a band and two string players. So, God, it could be, I guess, eight or nine.

PM: Or, alternately, it could be the two of you and two string players.

MF: Uh-huh.

BD: Yeah, that could be.

PM: For a different look and a different sound. But yeah, as you say, neither looks terribly likely at the moment. I mean, their downturn has been catastrophic, and long running. So just that considered, it's amazing that a new deal came up, and it was a multi-album deal, right?

BD: Yeah, they want us to do three more, unless--

PM: Three more, a four-album deal.

BD: Unless this one totally tanks.

MF: [laughs]

BD: Which I don't think it will. I mean, in the first week we sold 1,400 records.

PM: Really?

BD: That's not bad for Japan. The single is getting play. And supposedly we're going to make some sort of chart entrance this week. We'll find out Sunday, they post it.

MF: With Clay Aiken.

BD: Yeah, right behind Clay Aiken.

PM: [laughs]

MF: I can't believe that guy sold five million records in a week or something. It's amazing. He was multi-platinum the first week.

BD: Five million albums.

PM: The power of TV.

MF: Yes.

PM: I've never heard one song of his. I've never seen the guy.

MF: I haven't, either. I don't know what's on the radio. I don't even know where to find him. But I'm not looking for him.

PM: I was surprised to see yesterday how many records Norah Jones has sold.

BD: Is it like eight million or something?

PM: No, it was eighteen.

BD: Oh, my God.

PM: Eighteen million records worldwide. I thought it was going to be like six, seven, eight million. But it's seven million in the States alone--7.8 million. I mean, that's just unbelievable.

BD: Yeah, wow.  continue

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