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A Conversation with Joan Baez (continued) PM: I've been admiring the album photos, the way one does when listening. You look...fantastic. I mean, how do you do it? JB: [laughs] PM: How do you do it--good genes or clean living? JB: Well, part of it's genes, I have to say. My mom is 90, and she looks about 75. PM: No kidding. JB: So I'm really lucky. The other is, I'm really careful. I mean, I eat about half of what's put in front of me, usually. PM: That seems to be a huge secret. JB: [laughs] PM: That some people just do that. JB: Print it. Print it. PM: [laughs] JB: It shouldn't be a secret. I mean, in this country, we are just served too much. PM: Right. JB: And so that, and I do Yoga, and I do a lot of meditation. PM: Do you practice any certain kind of meditation or follow any specific spiritual path? JB: I do. Well, in the meditation, I do the Vipassana meditation. Because, I think from my Quaker upbringing, it's more about being aware--because Vipassana is an awareness meditation--than it is about trying to lose yourself in a candle flame or something--which also has its merits, because it's nice to float off. But I think we're stuck here, so we might as well get to know what this minute is about. PM: Yeah, the Vipassana crowd, they don't close their eyes, either, right? They more focus on that spot about forty-five degrees down. Or is that true, or-- JB: Well, some of them do. I think it's the Zen folks who do that more. But I've seen both. I've seen both-- PM: Are you an eye closer? JB: I'm both, because I do walking meditation, which means I've got to keep my eyes open. [laughter] PM: Yeah, yeah. It's good to open your eyes when you're walking. JB: It shouldn't be any surprise, but it's grounding. PM: Sure. JB: You concentrate on your feet and where they're hitting the ground, footstep by footstep. PM: Yeah. I'm real excited about one of those little meditation benches coming, I think, tomorrow. I ordered it from this guy up in--you know the Ananda people up in northern California? JB: Yep, yes I do. PM: Yeah. There's a guy there who makes them. JB: Up in Nevada City. PM: Nevada City. You ever been up to the Vipassana place up in Marin County, Jack Kornfield's joint? [www.spiritrock.org] JB: Jack is a friend of mine. PM: I figured he might be. continue print (pdf) listen to clips puremusic home
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